Monday, 26 October 2009

Man U vs Pool

A few thoughts from the much awaited showdown that was more of a hen fight...

1 - Liverpool were easily the better team, and thoroughly deserved the result.

2 - The pre-game ideas of Liverpool fans that winning this game would get them right back in the mix, was hugely misguided. Instead of looking at the game as "if we beat the champions it proves we are still in it" they should have looked at it as just one more match worth three points. That, at the end of the day, is all they got.

3 - Three points gained on United, but only one on Chelsea. I didn't read one - not one - Liverpool fan mention the fact Chelsea would still be way in front of them after the weekend (before you even try and say they might not have won, it was Blackburn at the Bridge!), which leads one to think that Liverpool fans are only interested in bettering United. Obsessed?

4 - Andre Marriner was p**s poor. In no way is this some attempt at an excuse for losing, as i said Liverpool thoroughly deserved that win. However, if you look at it objectively (in other words, if you aren't a Liverpool fan) how can you say that Evra being booked after two challenges, yet Mascherano not getting booked until his 15th(ish), and Lucas amazingly not getting booked at all (!!!) is correct?

Add to that the possibility of a penalty for Carragher's first half challenge, the two barges on Giggs in the area within 5 seconds of one another, and Carragher's absolutely unbelievable reprieve for the foul on Owen. I was disappointed with Evra's yellow card for two reasons; one because it is an early booking for a defender and that is never good, but two because i thought that would be the barometer for yellow cards for the rest of the game. As it turns out it was only the barometer for United, not for Liverpool.

5 - Carragher's challenge on Carrick. The obvious answer is "HE GOT THE BALL, LA!", but he barely, and i mean BARELY, touched it. As has been mentioned many times, getting the ball doesn't exonerate you from punishment. Had Carragher not managed to take Carrick out, then the ball would still have been at Carrick's feet, so the fact he DID take him out means penalty.

6 - Torres is the best striker on the planet. Not quite 100% fit, pain killing injections before the game, only one sniff of goal, and the winning goal is his. Awesome.

7 - Torres is also a cheating little s**t. In the same way Ronaldo received massive plaudits for ability, but huge criticism for his "gamemanship", so should Torres. The first foul - and "foul" is being generous to the ref - Vidic committed on him and he was straight at the referee complaining, obviously trying to get Vidic in the s**t. As i said he is a truly great striker, but it is about time he was vilified by fans and media alike, about his diving, cheating, whining ways.

8 - United should accept any bid they might receive for Vidic. If we get £20m then we have done well. He has been found out big time! He turns like an oil tanker, his pace over five or ten yards is awful, and as a result he is getting more red cards than we can handle.

9 - Yossi Benayoun is one of the most under-rated players in the league and his through-ball for Torres was the pass of the season so far.


10 - I say again, Liverpool deserved to win, and i have no problems with the result, well done.

21 comments:

raghu said...

I thoroughly enjoyed the game...oor sandai la ooruga nakkardhu naa kekkanuma?...that too after a thumping 5-0 result...

Liverpool were awesome. Atleast benayoun and torres have lived upto to the hype.

Man U were more than disappointing. For the past 4 or 5 games atleast i coludn't see the Man U on the pitch.

Ofcourse referees tend to be lenient on the home side. You know this better. It happens at Old Trafford too. and there are exceptions like the UCL semifinal last year.

But its no point talking abt gamemanship. Except a very few respected ones every body likes to do that occasional dive or that leg breaking tackle etc.

Atlast liverpool are sinking. I think there is a proverb sumthin like before the candle goes off it burns really well for one last time.

I dont see them climbing anywhere in that table from now. Hopefully!!

pradeep sekhar said...

@Raghu: Nice thought.. Diving has become pretty usual like you've said, but a cheating act like that is becoming too serious these days and high levels of reprimand are involved subsequently (both from the opposition fans and referees). So "everybody likes to do that occasional dive" shows high levels of lenience. And as for Torres, "occasional" is a misfit.

praveen said...

1.I dont see you complaining against ferguson who keeps coming at the refree throughout the game nor united's crowding out the ref for every foul. cover both sides if you raise a point.
2.I did not see you complaining when fletcher was let off against arsenal after commiting dozens and i definitely did not see you complaining when arsenal were denied the most clear cut penalty ever.
3.Torres dived??? you have never tripped over you own leg while playing a game??? And tripping a player near the goal line is a yellow card regardless of you believing the contrary.
4.As for Vidic - he committed two cynical fouls on torres and wasnt booked for either.
5.Carra sending off would have been harsh and that has been accepted by nearly every football writer.
6.And if you think Liverpool and ManU are not obsessed with each other you either do not know your football or you are confused.
7.I dont see you complaning against the five min extra time given for a half in which one goal was scored and there was little stoppage or time wasting by either teams.
8.Yossi underrated? he is one of the most popular players at Anfield. The only problem with him is he tends to be a little selfish and at times does not stick to the set out formation.
9.And Liverpool not going to climb back... LOL dream on. A half fit torres and Lucas were enough for you to get beaten fair and square. Wait till StevieG and Aquilani come into the squad.

pradeep sekhar said...

@Praveen:Now, that was the "objective" version of the post (Refer to post for citation). Lol..nothing more to say. Liverpool are obsessed and no wonder their fans are too....rotflmao. Go on Mr Fiction

pradeep sekhar said...

@Praveen:
We at United don't need to be obsessed with "under-performing" title challengers, no matter who they are. Check this out - http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={B4CEE8FA-9A47-47BC-B069-3F7A2F35DB70}&newsid=6641756

Something that our stalwart captain said before the match. We are not obsessed for heavens' sake

praveen said...

under performing team who managed to thrash the "champions" three times in a row.
and you "objective"?? give me a break.
and you cant pass anything you cant agree with as fiction.

pradeep sekhar said...

@Praveen: YES, Underperforming...when you see that we have won three titles in a row and you are yet to win one in 18 years...and "objective" is a positive word..dont you see? Lolz...go on Mr Science..what next?

praveen said...

and i remember rooney,evra making tall claims before the match at old trafford last season and then having to eat humble pie or will you conveniently pass this as fiction too.
the banners and the beach balls proved to all if the "real" man u fans are obsessed or not.

pradeep sekhar said...

@Praveen: There is a concept called "Mind Games" and we are masters at it (courtesy our Gaffer- The Man of 22 years) and that was what Rooney/Evra did on that occasion.

praveen said...

masters lol...getting beaten after making tall claims

pradeep sekhar said...

@Praveen: We, "REAL" Man U fans would throw balloons and beach balls and why not rockets at Emirates or Bridge with no partiality. We are "real" fans. So we ain't obsessed whatsoever. He who hath the last laugh is He who is on top!! Hail Man United for the fourth title in a row.

praveen said...

objective means to make a fair analysis without your personal biases affecting your judgment.
Many of the points in your post are not but it is hard to expect a objective post from a football fan and especially one who has lost.I understand that.

praveen said...

and instead of conveniently labeling critiques of your team as fiction care to refute them. oh but then you cant refute cold harsh truth can you?

pradeep sekhar said...

If your ever-living post on your blog is to be tagged "objective", mine over here is way too better..possibly (objective) (The whole square)

pradeep sekhar said...

And over here, we don't refute claims that are visibly biased and make no/very little sense

praveen said...

i never called it objective did i? it is a LFC log of perceived favors to ManU.

pradeep sekhar said...

I appreciate the verity in your character. Had my fingers crossed and was afraid if you would tag the LFC log as "objective cube" or something of that sort Lol..

praveen said...

make no sense??? LOL. QED.

pradeep sekhar said...

I am a considerate little chum. Did you miss the slashed alternative there? I was magnanimous in having given the "very little sense" option.

raghu said...

stop the nonsense i say!

pradeep sekhar said...

Roger That!!